uɐʎɹ
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@Peaches Doubt it. When I started college, a large majority of my friends invested in Macs. Every single one of them has vowed to never buy a computer with Windows again. I'd assume that every single one of us aren't unlucky with Windows and lucky with the Mac OS.
TH3 H4NMGAMN
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@uɐʎɹ I You must be right. 90% of the computer market being Windows based is just a joke right? Macs are 110% of the computer market, right? Of course. Those Macs, paying $100 extra for 4GB of RAM is suuuuuuuuuuuch a good deal. Man, I wish the shit hardware that Apple uses which is worth $35, was in my PC.
uɐʎɹ
Member
The majority of the car market is cornered by Honda, Toyota, GM, Ford, Dodge and other lower end cars. I'd venture to say about 85%. I guess BMW's and Masaratti's, Jaguars, Lexuses and other expensive cars suck because fewer people choose to invest more money in them. Makes sense.
PC World (note the word PC, not Mac) even conceided that Macs run Vista better than any other machine out. AS A SECONDARY OPERATING SYSTEM.
briscojr
Member
I'm really happy for you, I'm a let you finish, but the Commodore Amiga was one of the best computers of all time. One of the best computers of all time.
natpants
Member
i can't believe you guys are still going at this. again, i've never had a problem with Windows, ever. just depends on the user, i guess. stop getting so pissed off lol.
daniel
Member
I guess you guys have graduated from console wars to mac/pc war. Nice.
BurningChrome
Member
i just DLd the new zune software...haven't really started playing with it...i can't truly compare the zune software to itunes because i've never used itunes, ever, and most likely never will. i'm just not an apple kind of guy.
but i just gotta say, i love my zune (even if it has some country music on it)...i just wish there was an easier way of importing my 350+ cds onto my computer and hence onto my zune...
Rodney
Member
Yea this makes alot of sense, i have the 80gb touch zune, but hopefully theres a good warranty on it cuz they dont cover cracked screens or even fix them for a fee
seth_david_andrew
Member
I was more impressed with the Zune my friend owned than I would have guessed that I would have been.
That being said, I have an old iPod that I love more than my grandparents. Through thick and thin, I tell you, thick and thin.
I would never want to live in a world where either of them were the exclusive distributor.
hbkv1k
Member
i will buy a 32 gb zune hd customized @ zune's website. i hate apple and always hated ipods because they're are so fucking "trendy" that's why i'll never buy a fucking iphone. can't wait till google's chrome os comes out too.
TrojanMayhem (Minja)
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Trendy implies that people are interested in something because of some perceived social value rather than a practical or functional value. While the iphone is popular it's not because it's trendy it's because it is so versatile and functional. Not unlike many other popular phones like blackberries or palm pre's.
Personal preference certainly plays a role but I would hardly call something that gained popularity based on it's extreme versatility and convenience of use trendy.
uɐʎɹ
Member
Minja, have you gotten MMS yet?
Although I'd reason to believe you jailbreaked, so you already had it, I haven't done so. I just got MMS yesterday.
TrojanMayhem (Minja)
Member
Yeah I do, it seems really random who has it and who doesn't though. The last I heard the roll out date is the 25th if I remember right.
TH3 H4NMGAMN
Member
Is there an 80GB Zune "touch"? I thought, or know, that it is 16GB and 32GB.
daniel81
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@BurningChrome
wow. I just dnloaded it too and it's kills iTunes. I think it's amazing.
BurningChrome
Member
eeegads! why is the world in bed with apple?
TrojanMayhem (Minja)
Member
The worlds in bed with apple? Why because they're a massive underdog compared to PC's?
seth_david_andrew
Member
Because Apple is hip.
I think.
More hip than windows lately.
TrojanMayhem (Minja)
Member
Ah, well that's a perceived notion. Although I don't think windows has ever been "hip" or "cool." However I think nothing is cooler than building your own PC from scratch rather than buying one. That being said I would be hard pressed to find a better laptop than the macbook pro.
uɐʎɹ
Member
The reason why I, personally, am "in bed with Apple" is simple. I was tired of seeing $1,500 - $2,000 computers be bought by my family only to see these machine fail, and either get a virus (despite expensive virus protection software), or constantly freeze during simple mundane tasks like talking on AIM, surfing the web or trying to write a paper. I decided that I wanted a machine that just works. I was tired of worrying about mallware, viruses and worms. I was tired of being in the middle of writing a report only to see the computer freeze, and for me to have my train of thought interrupted, and waiting for it to restart. I also got sick of piss poor customer service.
I had a Creative Zen: Vision M mp3 player, it was billed up to be the iPod Killer; before the Zune. It was Windows native, and you wouldn't believe how often this thing froze. Literally I would have to reset the thing, 15-20 times a week. Then one day, my computer's hard drive got wiped by a virus. A week later, my Zen crashed as well; the windows native virus had infiltrated my MP3 player, and caused it to crash as well. I lost a large portion of a 3,000+ song library, as I hadn't backed up everything all the time. Being a busy college student, I just forgot sometimes.
At this point, I was fed up with the Windows experience. I then decided to go Mac. You know that saying once you go black..? It should be Mac. I have never seen a computer with the straight up amazingness of this Mac. The layout, the features, just everything. It just works. I have never seen the computer freeze, not once. I don't have to worry if this download might contain a virus or if I might get mallware here or if this might happen or about anything.
It was said earlier that iTunes is a clunky, heavy running program. Yet, with only 1GB of RAM (on a friend's Mac, mine has 2GB). I've ran iTunes, as well as watched a video stored on the hard drive (for reference in a report I was writing), Handbrake (a video ripping software), iChat (with the cam), Word, both Firefox and Safari, and photoshop; all at once, without as much as a lag, let alone a freeze up of the computer. Try that on a PC and let me know what happens.
BurningChrome
Member
i was really speaking more to the point of this thread, i.e. zune vs ipod
all of the reviews i have read say that ipod is better, for whatever reason for whatever model...and i find that hard to believe...i would feel very confident in saying my zune kills every other ipod in its class...i have not seen an ipod touch in person, but i'm not sure i would want one anyway, nor do i think i want the zune hd, for the same reasons in both cases...i don't want my mp3.video playere to do all that other crap. which, of course, is the reason that the "apps" arguement holds no weight for me.
i guess that's also one of the things i DON'T like about the iphone...my phone does a lot of stuff: internet, email, calendar, word processing, etc...but i don't necessarily want it to do all that other stuff...it's primary purpose in my life is as a phone & if i am using it for some other thing...idk...that's just how i feel about it...
TH3 H4NMGAMN
Member
The whole apps argument is overrated. I'd say that a good 97% of the Apple apps are just worthless games or things that are a waste of space, like the dog whistle, dumb games like beer pong, or a sonic ruler.
uɐʎɹ
Member
With the quality of lame ideas, bandwagon jumping, and late-to-the-party mentality going on over in Redmond, maybe it's not too late for them to rename the corporation Micro-sauce.
The latest indignity? In anticipation of the opening of the Windows Mobile 6.5 Marketplace application store, the software giant has taken to advertising its shop within various iPhone apps.
Fail much?
Jack
Member
@upsidedownbecauseitscoolryan I have a Zen and it still works great. It's of course outdated now, but it was superior to the Ipod of that time.
TH3 H4NMGAMN
Member
How is that a fail? You fail if anything. Does your "college" have the words "middle school" in the name? Why wouldn't MS want to take the competition's, Apple's, customers and covert them to Win Mobile users? God damn it "colleges" have gone to shit these days. Someone with a major in "Political Science" should know that.
uɐʎɹ
Member
@Jack the features of the Zen were nice, the radio and voice recorder were nice, but the constant freezing was irritating, as was the lack of easy to find accessories. Even so, I was still fine with it until it was infiltrated by the virus.
And the upside down isn't because it's "cool," it's because I know so many people with the name Ryan, that on Myspace it made me different than the simple "Ryan". Although I rarely use Myspace anymore as I've migrated to Facebook, where last names are used, It has since become a calling card of sorts for me on various sites such as this. You can simply call me Ryan, no need to acknowledge the upside down nature of it. I'll still know it's me you're referring to.
@TH3 H4NMGAMN again, reading comprehension seems to have been your down fall. Had you actually taken the time to click the link, you'd have seen that the article in question had nothing to do with converting users; but instead converting programmers. "Microsoft promises a big contest for app developers, complete with big prizes. Plus, big rules. All you have to do is click through one screen after another, pony up an annual $99 plus a $99/per app fee, ditch Java, among other things." Please explain to me how it isn't a fail. Microsoft wants the programmers to pony up $100 up front (plus every year) to have the right to create apps in an unproven market, plus having to pay $100 to get your massively restricted app into the aforementioned unproven market. You're right. Epic win. They're surely going to convert iPhone/iPod touch programmers with a system that charges programmers double for creating one app (plus anual fees to keep the app there) than what Apple charges for creating an unlimited number of apps. With a system like that, you can forget having free apps too. But yes, epic win. 
As far as the state of colleges goes, it's true, the general quality of colleges have declined. And I use the term college loosely, seeing as I actually am a student at a University; but with the interchangable nature of the terms, I simply say college. However, I really wouldn't know anything first hand about the decine, seeing as I go to one of the best colleges and universities in the Northeast, according to the Princeton Review. And also one of the very few colleges and universities they recomended in their book on the subject, for the 2010 school year.
You really need to stop trying to turn this simple discussion into a dick swinging contest; you're making a fool of yourself.
TH3 H4NMGAMN
Member
If you had the mental capacity to click your link, you would see that it is, in fact, broken.
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