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Women love confidence... but! What if... - 101 posts

  1. Jaym
    Member

    What if you have nothing to be confident about? How do you fake confidence? I always hear that the thing women are most attracted to is confidence (followed by nice shoes, which I *totally* don't get.)

    But, I have no skills or talents to give myself confidence. I have no physical attributes to give myself confidence. I mean, I like who am I and what I believe in and wouldn't change the things I'm into and what I like for anything...

    But I still don't have any confidence- and it's totally out of my control in most cases.

    So, how do you have confidence when you have nothing to be confident about?

    The internet is terrible at portraying "tone"- you can't see my face or body language. Since this is the case, please apply the following representative mood to what I just said: =P
    http://www.twitter.com/JaymEsch
    Posted 11 months ago #
  2. noname
    Member

    confidence and self-esteem are two different things.

    i just have faith in everything i say. even if i stand up and yell i just pooped and everyone thinks its retarded, i think its funny, therefore it is funny. Not that extreme but in some cases this applies

    good body language is essential as well, go google body language and what not.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  3. WizardOfWasz
    Member

    have confidence in the fact that you could give any woman the best sex of their life. you dont have to be a male model to get a woman off and men that do look like models are usually to into themselves to care if their girl is satisfied.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  4. Jaym
    Member

    Well, even that point brings up an aspect of what I'm talking about. I'm not porn-size endowed... in fact, I'm on the smaller end of average. While I personally understand that it doesn't matter what size you are, blah blah, you constantly hear jokes about how you have to be 7", or how much women hate smaller men, etc.

    Heck, even Olivia said during one of the In Your Pants segments she wasn't into "smaller" guys.

    That really blows your confidence from a sexual standpoint. Add to that the lack of skills and other talents- I don't play any instruments, I don't ride motorcycles, I don't travel... I mean, unless I can impress a women with my 3rd place finishing Team Fortress 2 skills, I'm out of luck. =P

    The only thing I have going for me is intelligence, but if you're not careful about that you come off as arrogant or elitist... and I have a silly sense of humor, but since I have low confidence and self-esteem I am very shy and therefore my humor doesn't come out until LONG after you get to know me.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  5. WizardOfWasz
    Member

    just gotta let it all go and go for it. i know "small guys" that get laid all the time besides most women dont get off just from penetration. use your tongue, fingers, weewee, etc mix it all up youll both have a blast. oh and alcohol helps let it all go. social lubrication!!!

    Posted 11 months ago #
  6. Deltus
    Member

    Take a martial art. Not that I believe in violence, but knowing that you *can* kick anyone's ass in a room gives you lots of confidence.

    As for the sex thing, honestly (and this only comes from many, many years, young padawan), it's all about fantasy and proper stimulation of erogenous zones, most especially with women. So very few women are actually into horse-sized dick. A hell of a lot more enjoy the *thought* of horse-sized dick. Only the first couple of inches inside the vagina even have touch-based nerves. That extra 10 inches that most guys wish they had? It's impressive looking. It adds to fantasy. And has next to nothing to do with actual stimulation physically.

    You wanna be good in bed and bring women to orgasm? (And seriously, guys, that's gotta be your goal; the ladies LOVE it, and honestly, your getting off is almost a sure thing regardless, right?) Learn what she likes. Learn to lick pussy well. Don't hammer on the clit. Learn what fantasies she enjoys, and talk about them while you're getting her off.

    And remember, the sex is about her enjoyment, k? OF COURSE you're going to enjoy yourself. Enjoying sex is pretty fucking easy when you're a guy. It's one of the GREAT things about being a guy!

    Posted 11 months ago #
  7. noname
    Member

    no dude, penis size is cool and all, but if you look at a women's vagina from a physiological standpoint- most of their nerve endings are at the front of vagina, rather than the canal. Saying that, ever hear of the term screwing? Yeah, going in and out isnt gunna do shit, unless you have a horse cock, because screwing is going in a circular fashion to stimulate her in the front.
    so dont worry about penis size, i know its hard but youll get over it.

    just learn to love yourself. askmen.com has some useful tips too, check it out.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  8. Terrence Cheek
    Member

    Word It sounds like you have the tools for confidence my friend, I read that you like yourself and what you beleive in, and that you woud"nt change yourself for nonthing. That is the definition of confidence, now you only need to let that energy come out and be comfortable around the ladies with that energy out bro. @Jaym

    Posted 11 months ago #
  9. Fores1ght
    Member

    Dude buy yourself (if you have no money, then steal) a badass car, some tight shoes, a huge gun, some diamond bling, and then watch your penis magically inflate to 3" larger than what it previously was. Then all you have to do is watch the panties drop while you pour a '40 over her face.

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    Posted 11 months ago #
  10. WizardOfWasz
    Member

    oh and there arent too many women that will laugh and walk outta the room because youre small. they just might not call you back afterward, but who cares? you just got laid use the confidence supplied from the sex and apply it to the next girl.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  11. noname
    Member

    Oh, another thing- i tend to beleive in the ideological theory known as relative social equality (Just made that up by the way). But, just look at everyone as being equal. You are equal to the dude that gets a lot of pussy, you are equal to the hot chick in your bio class that is super smart. Knowing that you are equal in every aspect gives you that confidence. It also gets rid of feeling inferior and making others superior. they are not superior, fuck that, we are all equal, we are all humans, fuck oh look i have huge tits, big lips and nice clothing, fuck that, dont listen that that shit thats drilled by society, no, fuck that.

    please excuse my french.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  12. supremium24
    Member

    Just be you. No need to fake it. Everyone is bound to meet someone who finds them intriguing. If you do fake it and you end up meeting someone and the relationship progresses, you're screwed. You'd have to start all over again. If meeting women is the problem then I agree with noname. Just view yourself as equal to everyone else.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  13. Mach5
    Member

    Jaym, here is a bit of advice when you are talking to a woman. Just relax, and listen to her. Women are very good listeners and key in on everything you are telling them. Do not stray your eyes around looking like you are nervous. Just look into her eyes because they have a relaxing quality to them and talk to her as if you were talking to a friend without using cuss words. If you can communicate with a woman on that level, you will have many women that will like you. You have to understand that women love to talk, and like guys who will give them attention. Agree on the things she says, smile, and crack a joke or two, and be intelligent on your answers, so that she knows your actually listening to her. The key word is conversation. Everyone is born with confidence, you just have to apply it. Good luck !

    Posted 11 months ago #
  14. Jaym
    Member

    Wow...

    Lots of advice, thanks for the input! Uh, it kind of went a direction I wasn't expecting with the sex advice- while I haven't been able to put it into practice in an insanely long time I feel good about my skills in that regard, I've just always had low confidence because when you hear things like Olivia said that one day on AOTS talking about a guy she was with, "Wow it's so small, does it even work?" (Thankfully I am not THAT small, hehe) anyways, despite knowing that size doesn't matter- you constantly hear over and over how much it does, and that drains on you despite what mad skills you may potentially have in bed (hehe).

    The conversational skills are something I have to work on. I have a terrible tendency when I try to start talking to a woman to bring up stories about me that relate- the problem is, I have lots of stories that make me look bad (I've had a TERRIBLE past 10 years, so I have horror stories that make me look like the ultimate loser even though I'm not responsible for any of it!) I have to learn to shut my mouth and be a bit more of a mystery.

    Course, one thing I've never figured out is disclosure. See, a lot of the bad things going on in my life have been caused by the fact I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder. It's not something I can really keep hidden from people, because otherwise the rest of the situations in my life don't make sense (why I've been unemployed 8 years, haven't been on a date since '97.) I have no qualms about having it, so normally I end up sharing it casually- because of course one of the first questions I normally get asked is "What do you do?" I don't know how to answer that right now without explaining I've been lengthily unemployed because of anxiety. Otherwise it just makes me sound like I'm one of those guys that doesn't want to work.

    What is your opinion on sharing that? I mean, if I'm chatting with someone at Starbucks for the first or second time and she asks what I do for work? Do I "lie" and say I work in the field I used to? Or say "I used to be a..." It's kind of a lie to say "I'm out of work at the moment", because of course 8 years isn't a "moment". This has always confused me.. I don't want to lie, but to some women telling them I have a disorder that's caused me so much damage is an immediate strike-out.

    Any tips on that?

    Posted 11 months ago #
  15. Dave-O
    Member

    Like they said before, be confident in who you are. I think I remember you saying on another post that you like creative writing. Tell a chick that you're a writer. Because that's what you do, right? If she asks what you've written for, tell her you're freelance, or you're working on something, or whatever else may be applicable to your situation. Based on your posts, I'd guess you're good at writing. And if you can tell a story like a good writer, that's pretty impressive- people love that.
    As for the habit of telling bad stories about yourself- and I could be waaaay off on this- I think sometimes people don't want to hear a relateable story. It might make them feel like you are stealing their spotlight, or minimizing their own story by trumping it. If you can simply empathize without telling your own horror story, or maybe even a simple "Yeah, I know what THAT'S like..." comment.

    Any of you homos touch my stuff... I'll kill ya.
    Posted 11 months ago #
  16. WizardOfWasz
    Member

    what do you do? i mean how do you survive 8 years without working? powerball winner? no really though talking about work is boring. people usually use that when they dont know what else to say. its kinda like "nice weather today eh?" you have to keep asking the questions and listening and control the flow of the conversation and you can stay off the topic of work all together. if it does come up make a joke of it. not of the fact that you dont work, but like your a stripper or a gigalow or something. i wasnt working for awhile and a girl in a bar asked me what i do. my buddy quickly spoke up and told her i sold commercial real estate. she looked at me with an impressed look on her face and i (who hates lying to women in an attempt to sleep with them) said "actually i panhandle right up the road, corner of lincoln and wrightwood" she ate it up threw a joke right back like "oh thats whys you look familiar." make em laugh, make em smile, try to stay off the topic and youll be fine. oh and get drunk with them so if the fact you dont work comes out maybe they wont care or remember

    Posted 11 months ago #
  17. Paweezy Fosheezy
    Member

    Gotta agree with Dave-O, most (if not all) people at first don't want to hear negative things from a person they just met. Once you get to know that person, even if its just as a friend, negative experiences and such are safer becuase you can both share them with each other.
    Personally, when meeting somebody new (especially women) I like to talk about myself as little as possible unless they ask me a question about myself. Otherwise it can come off as rambling or cocky. Ask them questions, not only does it show that you're interested in them, it keeps the conversation going so you don't have those awkward silences, I hate those!

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    Posted 11 months ago #
  18. Paweezy Fosheezy
    Member

    Haha, gotta agree with Wizard a lil too, alcohol can help both parties be more relaxed and open. I personally don't like getting drunk or being with anybody completely wasted, but a nice buzz helps. Same thing for sex, with most women sex is more mental/emotional than physical. My ex has severe ADHD, she'd be thinking of everything else but sex sometimes, but a lil alcohol helps the mind relax so ya'll can focus on what you're doing.
    And Deltus is right, if you know how to use your tongue you've got something to work with.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  19. Jaym
    Member

    @Wasz Yeah, it's kind of amazing how long you can manage to trudge along without income of any serious kind if you have support. To give a short answer: I lived off of unemployment first, then cashed out my 401k, then finally ran out of money and was stuck at home for nearly a year and a half- literally couldn't do anything until my grandmother died last year and I received a moderate inheritance I've been living on- though I only have a few thousand left before I'm back to broke as hell.

    I can't even get into my career woes- if you understand anxiety disorder, you might have an idea as to what issues I'm facing, but to put it simply I can't work most jobs available- I have VERY specific work requirements in the job type and environment. And, anxiety disorder is different for each person, in my case it is not curable. Some can cure it easily. I got the short end of the stick. =/

    @Dave-O Yeah, I'm half way through a book (pre-revisions, that is) and actually had several of the Baristas at Starbucks very interested in reading what I was writing, so I agree... that's a good discussion topic. It's just kind of cliche to say, "Yeah, I'm writing a book, blah blah... " hehe. I should get a custom shirt made that just says "Author" or "Writer" on it.

    Better yet, get one that says, "I AM HOPELESS WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN. IF YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE ATTRACTED TO ME, PLEASE TAKE ME HOME." Hmmm. That's not a bad thought!

    (I used to have a bar shirt I'd wear when I went dancing in college that said "TAKE ME DRUNK, I'M HOME" =P)

    Posted 11 months ago #
  20. Marcello
    Member

    Hey Jaym, dunno if you will read this as the thread is 3 days old, but I saw a Louis Theroux show where he spent a week in a Vegas brothel and one of the hookers was really intelligent and had some good insight on dick size. She said that she had found the average length is 5-6 inches which is an inch smaller than I thought was normal. She also said that Asians are even smaller, but are really comfortable with sex and this was more important to her.
    Have you tried antidepressant/anti anxiety medication that will kill social phobia? If not speak to your doctor. Social phobia, anxiety and panic attacks are really common these days and I think doctors have cottoned on a lot more about anxiety disorders in the last 5-7 years and can treat it quite well.
    DaveO had some great advice for you there as well. I hope you can sort this, especially the work and stuff because it is all part of the confidence cycle. Once you can even quell the anxiety a bit you feel like working which leads to more confidence and interaction and it snowballs. If you find you say jerky things when you converse, just consciously shut yourself up a bit, listen and answer --> mystery, after a while it will get better. I can also tell you from experience that you get better at conversing with age too. Key thing is when girls talk they are not looking for solutions, they are just looking for support, they are quite capable of making solutions, but want, need and love the support.
    And don't forget, there are pretty girls out there with small titties and fantastic personalities that are just as fucked up as you.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  21. GhostWhoWalks
    Member

    Eye contact, an easy smile, and just listen. You eventually can stop listening once you're married. Heh.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  22. MrBeanandtheMantis
    Member

    Confidence is a wierd thing. Confidence can be boosted by various things i.e. you've gone out and bought a nice stylish outfit, some nice new shoes, gotten a haircut and cleaned yourself up. Changing your outward appearance can help increase your confidence.

    However when it comes to talking to girls, asking them out etc, the most important thing is what you say and how you say it. Some other posters have recommended being yourself and I totally agree. Say something in your own idiom, because if a girl gets it and responds to it, then she gets you. Don't use a cheesy line that you would otherwise smirk at.

    Also, talk to her in a normal voice. If you're fumbling for words, mumbling or tripping over your tongue, she won't be impressed. Also, don' talk to her in a booming voice that can be heard across a dancefloor.

    Just put it out there for her "I'd like to take you out some time for dinner or something. When's a good night for you to join me?" This way you're not putting her into a yes/no situation - you're asking when, not if. That's confidence.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  23. TrojanMayhem (Minja)
    Member

    The thing about self confidence is that it's "confidence of your motherfuckin' self bitch." Kat Williams is hilarious.

    http://twitter.com/trojanmayhem
    Come manifest yourself in front of me, that I may pee on you......
    Posted 11 months ago #
  24. insertnickhere
    Member

    Sorry for the length, but the ladies don't mind

    Self confidence is the difference between feeling unstoppable and feeling scared out of your wits. Although many of the factors affecting self confidence are beyond your control, there are a number of things you can consciously do to build self confidence.

    1. Dress Sharp

    When you don’t look good, it changes the way you carry yourself and interact with other people. Use this to your advantage by taking care of your personal appearance. This doesn’t mean you need to spend a lot on clothes. One great rule to follow is “spend twice as much, buy half as much”. Rather than buying a bunch of cheap clothes, buy half as many select, high quality items.

    2. Walk Faster

    People with confidence walk quickly. They have places to go, people to see, and important work to do. Even if you aren’t in a hurry, you can increase your self confidence by putting some pep in your step.

    3. Good Posture

    People with slumped shoulders and lethargic movements display a lack of self confidence. They aren’t enthusiastic about what they’re doing and they don’t consider themselves important. By practicing good posture, you’ll automatically feel more confident.

    4. Personal Commercial

    One of the best ways to build confidence is listening to a motivational speech. Unfortunately, opportunities to listen to a great speaker are few and far between. You can fill this need by creating a personal commercial. Write a 30-60 second speech that highlights your strengths and goals, then recite it in front of the mirror aloud whenever you need a confidence boost.

    5. Gratitude

    Set aside time each day to mentally list everything you have to be grateful for. Recall your past successes, unique skills, loving relationships, and positive momentum.

    6. Compliment other people

    When we think negatively about ourselves, we often project that feeling onto others. Get in the habit of praising other people. Refuse to engage in backstabbing gossip and make an effort to compliment those around you.

    7. Sit in the front row

    In schools, offices, and public assemblies around the world, people constantly strive to sit at the back of the room. By deciding to sit in the front row, you can get over this irrational fear and build your self confidence. You’ll also be more visible to the important people talking from the front of the room.

    8. Speak up

    By making an effort to speak up at least once in every group discussion, you’ll become a better public speaker, more confident in your own thoughts, and recognized as a leader by your peers.

    9. Work out

    Physical fitness has a huge effect on self confidence. If you’re out of shape, you’ll feel insecure, unattractive, and less energetic. By working out, you improve your physical appearance, energize yourself, and accomplish something positive.

    10. Focus on contribution

    If you stop thinking about yourself and concentrate on the contribution you’re making to the rest of the world, you won’t worry as much about your own flaws. The more you contribute to the world, the more you’ll be rewarded with personal success and recognition.

    Now that it's all over, what did you really do yesterday that's worth mentioning?
    Posted 11 months ago #
  25. noname
    Member

    Nice list man, most of that is 100% true.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  26. insertnickhere
    Member

    @ noname

    Thanks man!

    Posted 11 months ago #
  27. MoeV
    Member

    This is by far the best thread in this entire forum because everyone is doing some good here.
    Jay, I know anxiety can be a bitch, but it seems like your confidence isn't shining threw because you are too busy worrying about the negative aspects of your life. Confidence comes from your inner self not your physical self. The more you worry about your physical appearance the less confidence you project. Does that make sense?
    When it comes to women it seems like you over analyze the situation. Good conversation goes a long way. Don't worry about trying to impress them, if a woman seems into you the signs will be very obvious. If you match up well then it happens. Don't sweat the details and remember that eventually you will match up with someone.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  28. The Tramp
    Member

    Just learn to like yourself. Even your flaws. Then the confidence will come afterwards

    Posted 11 months ago #
  29. noname
    Member

    It's difficult to change, but if you do something for an average of 21 days consecutively, it becomes a habit.

    This applies to almost anything

    Posted 11 months ago #
  30. Jaym
    Member

    I'm on the whole exercise thing- 15 months paid on a gym, paid for four sessions with a personal trainer to get me set up with all I need for the correct workout routine. In no time I'll have my abs back that I used to in Tae Kwon Do. (Ok, maybe some time. =P)

    Still no clue how to solve my career woes- that one's a doozy with my anxiety because I can't just shrug it off. Looking at graphic design, since it fits my personality, but of course I have no skill in it, so I have to convince someone to give me a shot over someone coming out of college with plenty of experience. I'll be working on a portfolio over the summer, we'll see where that goes.

    Biggest challenge for me is I'm attracted to younger women, and of course to them I'm the "old guy" bothering them. Not sure how to get around that one- I just haven't met any women my age that I'm attracted to or that share my more "youthful" creative hobbies (*cough* gaming *cough*). This is why I hang out on Michigan State's campus. Keep hoping I find that one girl who's young and likes older men. =P

    Anyways, lots of good advice from tons of people- Really appreciate how everyone's been making polite, kind and helpful suggestions instead of the typical internet forum result of piling on in a big flame-fest against me. Says a lot about the quality of Olivia's fans. Way to go Olivia, you have mature and intelligent fans. *clap*

    Thanks again, I'll consider what's all been said!

    Posted 11 months ago #

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